What a shame that you cant gawk at a picture of murdered children that r116 thinks they look cuter in. Thanks for mentioning that, whoever you are. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. Why would you bury your dead wife only a foot and a half underground? You're projecting your own values onto him. Jesus. Well, she shouldnt have . He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. 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Ill bet he tried so hard to keep his 401k funded. Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. So Shan'ann's Thrive income was and remains, a mystery. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. All his plans were thrown off track. R199, I saw that. Even her poor kids. Watts wife was 15 weeks pregnant. Her high school drama teacher said they called her Shanna ANN. Shanann to Shan'ann. She was not confrontational and more withdrew.#ShanannWatts #ChrisWattschris watts, true crime, true crime history, watts crime, watts family, cece watts, bella watts, tori hartman, chris watts history, chris watts timeline, live video, cbs news, colorado man. He later admitted to killing their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste, by smothering them with a blanket over their heads. R107, yup yup yup. You seem to like the psychopath label. Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. Which is what no one can explain. Shanann was so excited to have her first baby girl. I agree CBH. Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . He admitted to that. The description of what he did to those little girls. Shananns husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background.". He buried them at his place of work and left a bedsheet in the field. The Watts' house reminds me of a size 14 girl squeezing into a size 6 dress. The alienation, the excuses shes having a bad day, all of it. She went through three first names. When they have to explain themselves preemptively or repeatedly, watch out. Anybody else feel this way? Maybe if he'd convinced a judge that Shan'ann was a dishonest grifter he would have succeeded. I could see there being an inexplicable level of anger there that could explode inside Chris & make him snapand be crazy & cold as fuck with her, but two scared little girls? Shanann and Christopher "The Murderer" Watts. I think Chris is secretly relieved to be in prison. John Forbes officiating. Long gone are the days where a Dad is left penniless and without children, although so many posters think that is the deal. Didnt last long, because how can you grift from a call center? He even put her body next to their feet on the floor of the truck with her head & feet covered with *trash bags* and took an hour driving them to the site they would be murdered at. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. I don't get it. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. He was locked up within 48 hours. The women next to her in that pic are just fatter. Every quality I listed was well-documented in her videos and texts which revealed her dealings with others, as well as her attitude and perspective. He just doesnt. They got married around 2002/2003 and divorced around 2007/2008. I have to wonder if she didnt try to historically get some cash contributions from her parents by asserting she had medical debt. Shannan loved her husband. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. I followed the Hart murders, too. Billions of dollars.. Ok, well millions anyway. Can you imagine her as a single parent? If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. Or maybe it was a way to get bill collectors off her tail. There are photos of Shanann in tight dresses and boobs hanging out, standing next to souped-up cars. Thats bullshit made up by her crazy ass, psycho in-laws the ones that raised a murderer. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? Its very clinical and he doesnt sound like he has real empathy for what they went through. Why did her kids always have parallel medical problems? Chris was a real bore, apparently. It is known that she did not die until days later. I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. Watts was convicted of strangling his wife, Shanann, 34, in the house and then smothering his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, at his work site. [quote]Its my OPINION that people who mess around with their name are waving a red flag. One of the detectives admonished him, "Yes, but we I am asking you about Shannan now". for your pointless bitchery needs. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. In response to comments on the post, Shanann said that it was a '3 foot doll' that had been wrapped in 'their twister tarp thing'. He said that she used it constantly when he knew her and she was very well attached to it. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. Saw a new video today about Shan'annigan's 4,000 sf starter home in NC that she fled from, leaving most everything in there behind. Does anyone know when she began calling herself Shan'ann and why? They owed Toys R Us a shitload of money. Easy to say in retrospect I suppose. Was he going to explode them in a tank and then sue? These two mothers were hideous; they eventually killed their kidsand themselves. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. Do you know where she's at?" Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . Together with the idiotic sheriff from the Jayme Closs story, I cannot help but think, "Holy crap, Law Enforcement in this country is populated with total idiots.". The girls in the tanks, neatly hidden from view. Despite having the same triggers, we never had attacks at the same time. LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. Sham'ann was a phony OCD bossy frau. Just bookmarking threads for future reading when I have time. In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. He was sentenced Monday to. Two years to get the diagnosis she wanted. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? L Lynda Pringle 2 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] Fairy Garden Diy Ex Husbands True Crime Leonard Watts Interview Anne Family Quick More information . Please click here to update your account with a username and password. My partner's half sister is like this. She wanted people to ask her, "How should I pronounce your name?" Cheating is their hallmark. The comments below have not been moderated, By (where they're hugging). Shanann wanted one more child praying for a baby boy. "ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. Shanann was married once before she married Chris to a man named Leonard King, an attorney in North Carolina. The MIL was a cunt to her, too, but I think its because MIL recognized a fellow manipulator. [quote] in 2018, they were already in debt to the tune of almost 500K. Otherwise they can claim whatever and whos to say they are lying? Im sorry shes dead, but she was shady as fuck. The 500K was in 2015as of 2018, they were about 100K in debt (student loans, etc.) He mentioned the girls mimicking Shanann, in that they threw chicken nuggets at him, so maybe it was all rage against Shanann and her public humiliations? She got along well with people. In the August, 2018 video, Chris was was stunningly buff. At the time of her death, Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant with a baby boy she planned to name Niko. Just like Shanann had her parents Sandra and Frank move in in 2015/2016 meanwhile while Shanann/Chris and Sandra/Frank file BK? Her husband should have left her & divorced her, or never married her in the first place. And no one to root for except those poor kids. I'd consider being three months behind on her mortgage, a husband cheating on her, credit card debt in the tens of thousands at least, and being pregnant were a few of her bigger problems, r51. strangled daughters, megyn kelly, shan ann watts post, https://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3Us To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. But THEN, I saw her have a combination Lularoe clothing party and Pro-Bar taste testing party. Chris would have been on the hook for everything. , updated I think he snapped. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. Reinventing the spelling of a name is for high school kids. She expected to quietly . Does anyone think Shan'ann killed her ugly kids, like Chrissy claimed? to brutally cutting off their air supply & feeling nothing as they grunt and move around under the Yankees blanket struggling to breathe? The couple had reportedly had marital stress, and Shanann and the daughters had recently spent six weeks in North Carolina with her family, arriving back in Colorado on August 7. But yeah. She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. A Ryan Murphy miniseries on this needs to happen. Considering how Shanann gained the confidence of others and used them, I have no doubt she wouldve alienated the girls against Chris. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. With the anticipation of her son to join them she knew he would be loved by his sisters and family. R59: Why is there a photo of a black woman and child on the shelf? R55, Shananns mother signed as a guarantor for their CO home. i saw a video where Shanann was making protein snacks with that thrive shit and said they were for the whole family to eat. patches and has fibromyalgia and once walked past a man who was later discovered to wear women's underwear. I mean to stay would be commiting to hell. The cops never made her google searches public, but i am guessing she did a LOT of searches on her milquetoast co-workers, looking for just the right pigeon to pluck. R109: if Shannnanon filed for divorce claiming adultry, pregnant with 2 children under 5, shell get what she wants. I just think he lost it. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. The person who deserves the credit for masterminding this sick scheme is Nichol Kessinger. Over a similar if slightly shorter span of time, Chris Watts moved 7 times, averaging about a move per year. Study up! Only they know, but I bet that is the case. But then it was built up with more McMansions pretty quickly, though. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. Because intferile people have three pregnancies in a five-year span. As an adult, your identity basics, like first name, are already established. Is R58 a ped-o? "Last summer, Shanann and her daughters spent six weeks in North Carolina with her parents and brother before returning to the Frederick, Colorado, home she shared with Chris on Aug. 7. Chris Watts. Chriss friends wife hugged Chris and Shanann forbade him from seeing that friend anymore. I think if Shannan had lived she would have continued with her hypochondria, her over-spending, her delusional thinking, and would have made her children neurotic messes. HE is not getting this media-inspired bullshit. Foolish and impulsive on her part, but not at all impossible at the time. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. shanann watts first marriagedream about someone faking their death. In lieu of flowers memorial donations can be made in memory honoring Shanann to the Lupus Foundation of America at 2121 K Street NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20037-1830.or to the Frederick Colorado Police Dept.- Missing Persons Division at PO Box 435 Frederick, CO 80530 or to the St.Judes Childrens Hospital at 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105, Online condolences can be made to www.bolesfuneralhome.com. If so, nice of him not to say so. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. our privacy/terms or if you just want to see the damn Negligence. "Omg, I was so horrified that my wife killed our kids that I crammed them in an oil tank". I wonder if she might have used that Thrive crap on the kids. OK, but we're talking about SHAN'ANN now. Not only the people, but the backdrop to the story: middle class striving, cheap looking overpriced McMansion, Colorado oil country, an MLM scheme financially bleeding the couple, the killer husband's mistress, strife with the in-laws, posing on Instagram as if you've got life all figured out, showing off all the materialistic crap you charged on credit cards, etc. Back in NC, she was working for Dirty South Customs, managing the store. 05:02 GMT 17 Aug 2018 WHAT? Cans Natz. She likely gathered up a down payment from the funds she embezzled from the rim shop, then didn't pay the mortgage. This was all a conspiracy to defraud Anadarko out of hundreds of millions of dollars in a wrongful death suit. So she's the Laci Peterson of this generation? Just saying, R244 Like that YouTube family whose kid died of a random heart or brain condition and they livestreamed his funeral "for the fans". So is Sandra referring to new debt that Shanann told her about? not likable and i dont care that she is dead. That said, my pity and heartbreak goes out to those kids and Nico. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. Who extends credit to a bankrupt couple living in a gigantic home? That whole stunt with the MIL was something my mother would have done. R163, I didnt say she was a prostitute; she was scamming, embezzling, laundering money. Written by on 27 febrero, 2023. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. Also thought they were killed before Shanann got home and so never knew mommy was dead. She was not confrontational and more withdrew. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. To hide her, not to inter her. It does seem like a few people are looking to justify her murder so that they don't feel guilty about their attraction to Chris, seriously--but I'm assuming it's mostly tongue in cheek, since even if you can feel sympathy for someone snapping and killing a bitchy frau, there's the two innocent children and all r29 I believe Chris only made 60k/year and Shan'ann MAYBE made anither 30k with the Thrive! I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. Never heard of her. ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. This is a good thread! And Im pretty sure Colorado wouldve ruled that Shanann couldnt use her kids as props in any more public Thrive videos. What was she doing? crap but that is highly unlikely as MLMs are notorious for not producing actual living incomes for their dupes. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. But judges usually have some discretion in the awarding of child support, which can include maintaining a house for the use of the children. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? She was the store manager. Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged three and four on August 13, 2018. 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